[mod_python] mod_python bake-off?

hmm, this post is an extension of my other post, which stated that
many of the python frameworks are designed with web designers in mind.
 that is to say to seperate programming logic from web designers. 
that is the stated goal of many python web frameworks.  so how will
that fit in to this proposed bakeoff without the involvement of web
designers?

i didnt mean to make any sweeping generalizations.  i hope i've
clarified the context i was speaking in.


On Thu, 02 Sep 2004 07:03:37 +0200, David Fraser <davidf at sjsoft.com> wrote:
> steven a wrote:
> 
> >unless some web designers who don't know programming got involved; i
> >don't see how we would see any benefit.  one the other hand if they
> >need get involved in the bake-off then that could be interesting.
> >
> >otherwise it is just programmers guessing how web designers will use
> >the framework.
> >
> >i mean why should a programmer by himself  or herself use a framework?
> >
> >steven
> >
> >
> Hi Steven
> 
> I'm a programmer and I use a framework called jToolkit
> (jtoolkit.sourceforge.net) the whole time.
> It doesn't have any facilities for web designers, it has facilities to
> aid creation of data-based web applications.
> Different frameworks have different purposes
> 
> Regards
> David
> 
> 
> 
> >On Wed, 01 Sep 2004 10:53:04 +0200, David Fraser <davidf at sjsoft.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >>steven a wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>many frameworks are meant to separate programming logic and syntax
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>from non-programmer web designers.  what good would a bake-off do in
> >>
> >>
> >>>these cases?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>Some but not all. The key issue here is lots of the frameworks have
> >>different purposes.
> >>Some don't help web designers at all.
> >>So maybe a good idea would be to have say 3 different target
> >>applications suited to different kinds of frameworks
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>though i agree most frameworks suck; but not really, programming is
> >>>just so emotional these days.
> >>>
> >>>steven alyari
> >>>
> >>>On 01 Sep 2004 00:51:22 +0100, Nic Ferrier
> >>><nferrier at tapsellferrier.co.uk> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>Chris Curvey <ccurvey at earthlink.net> writes:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>There are a lot of different application frameworks that are popping up
> >>>>>that use mod_python.  That's a good thing!  Would anyone be interested
> >>>>>in having a "bake-off" to show the capabilities of each framework?  I'm
> >>>>>thinking that if we could come up with an easy but non-trivial
> >>>>>application, various people could implement it using their favorite
> >>>>>framework.  The results would not only be a nice comparison of different
> >>>>>frameworks, but would provide some nice examples for newbies.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>Yes. I'd like to implement without a framework. To show how silly
> >>>>frameworks are   /8->
> >>>>
> >>>>I'd suggest something with a database back end.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>Nic
> >>>>
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