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David Fraser
davidf at sjsoft.com
Thu Sep 2 08:03:37 EDT 2004
steven a wrote: >unless some web designers who don't know programming got involved; i >don't see how we would see any benefit. one the other hand if they >need get involved in the bake-off then that could be interesting. > >otherwise it is just programmers guessing how web designers will use >the framework. > >i mean why should a programmer by himself or herself use a framework? > >steven > > Hi Steven I'm a programmer and I use a framework called jToolkit (jtoolkit.sourceforge.net) the whole time. It doesn't have any facilities for web designers, it has facilities to aid creation of data-based web applications. Different frameworks have different purposes Regards David >On Wed, 01 Sep 2004 10:53:04 +0200, David Fraser <davidf at sjsoft.com> wrote: > > >>steven a wrote: >> >> >> >>>many frameworks are meant to separate programming logic and syntax >>> >>> >>>from non-programmer web designers. what good would a bake-off do in >> >> >>>these cases? >>> >>> >>> >>> >>Some but not all. The key issue here is lots of the frameworks have >>different purposes. >>Some don't help web designers at all. >>So maybe a good idea would be to have say 3 different target >>applications suited to different kinds of frameworks >> >> >> >> >> >>>though i agree most frameworks suck; but not really, programming is >>>just so emotional these days. >>> >>>steven alyari >>> >>>On 01 Sep 2004 00:51:22 +0100, Nic Ferrier >>><nferrier at tapsellferrier.co.uk> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>Chris Curvey <ccurvey at earthlink.net> writes: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>There are a lot of different application frameworks that are popping up >>>>>that use mod_python. That's a good thing! Would anyone be interested >>>>>in having a "bake-off" to show the capabilities of each framework? I'm >>>>>thinking that if we could come up with an easy but non-trivial >>>>>application, various people could implement it using their favorite >>>>>framework. The results would not only be a nice comparison of different >>>>>frameworks, but would provide some nice examples for newbies. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>Yes. I'd like to implement without a framework. To show how silly >>>>frameworks are /8-> >>>> >>>>I'd suggest something with a database back end. >>>> >>>> >>>>Nic >>>> >>>> >>>>_______________________________________________ >>>>Mod_python mailing list >>>>Mod_python at modpython.org >>>>http://mailman.modpython.org/mailman/listinfo/mod_python >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>_______________________________________________ >>>Mod_python mailing list >>>Mod_python at modpython.org >>>http://mailman.modpython.org/mailman/listinfo/mod_python >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> > > >
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