[mod_python] The mod_python project soon to be officially dead.

Graham Dumpleton graham.dumpleton at gmail.com
Thu May 27 20:25:43 EDT 2010

2010/5/28 Raphaël B. <nashii at gmail.com>:
> Hi,
> Is it possible to have something like psp with mod_wsgi ?
> 'cause I have programmed some pages with psp (i don't really like publisher
> ..) and I would like to continue using it.
> Is it as simple as for mod_python to use sessions ?
> It's really difficult to change the way we make things ...

PSP is mostly a standalone module in mod_python. There are
dependencies on the mod_python request object, forms and sessions. One
could though certainly port the PSP templating aspect to work as part
of a WSGI mini framework of some sort, but any interaction with the
request object, forms and sessions would likely need to change to
match what the mini framework provides.


> 2010/5/28 Graham Dumpleton <graham.dumpleton at gmail.com>
>> On 28 May 2010 09:53, Jason Caldwell <jscnet99 at me.com> wrote:
>> > Hi Graham --
>> > I would like to see mod_python continue on.  Supporting Py3.
>> Well, find like minded people and take on development and support of
>> mod_python yourself. That is going to be the only solution.
>> Knowing all the problems with how to deal with all the Unicode/bytes
>> issues in Python 3.X it is going even be a major task working out what
>> the interfaces should look like and where bytes versus Unicode should
>> be used. The argument about this for WSGI has been going on for almost
>> 2 years now I think and still now final resolution and WSGI is a lot
>> smaller interface than mod_python.
>> Also, there are a significant number of bugs in mod_python and
>> seriously they would need to be addressed before even trying to go to
>> Python 3.X. All up it is going to need some serious commitment and
>> right now there is no one who who has said they are prepared to do
>> that.
>> > I find the frameworks annoying and really love the simplicity and
>> > lightness of mod_python.
>> Did you look at Werkzeug and Flask as I mentioned in the blog. These
>> are not heavy weight frameworks. Flask is specifically what is called
>> a micro framework. Even if you didn't like Flask, it wouldn't take
>> much effort to use Werkzeug to create an alternate micro framework
>> that has usage pattern not too dissimilar to mod_python publisher. But
>> one has to question whether that is a good idea either given the
>> various design issues in publisher around multiple URLs being able to
>> be used to map to a single resource and the problems that causes. Do
>> you preserve these bad design issues or fix them?
>> Graham
>> > On May 27, 2010, at 4:33 PM, Graham Dumpleton wrote:
>> >
>> >> I have warned about this before on the list, but it is getting closer
>> >> now.
>> >>
>> >> If you are a user of mod_python, read my blog post about the topic at:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>  http://blog.dscpl.com.au/2010/05/modpython-project-soon-to-be-officially.html
>> >>
>> >> Graham
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