[mod_python] The mod_python project soon to be officially dead.

Graham Dumpleton graham.dumpleton at gmail.com
Wed Jun 9 00:19:33 EDT 2010

On 8 June 2010 23:07, Martijn Moeling <martijn at xs4us.nu> wrote:
> This is the reason I made a MP2WSGI "framework"
> Which is in fact a MP code compatible MP adapter for MOD_WSGI
> I run it in production but:
> I have not yet got the util and PSP modules to work since there are some technical issues I have not found the time to solve.
> This could very well be a solution for many MOD_PYTHON users.
> (I stil need help on the parse_qs and parse_qsl functions for util to work)

The mod_python source code says that are C implementations of:


Have how they work deviated over time?


> I plan on integrating PSP too, contributors are welcome
> see  http://www.bitbucket.org/mmoeling/mp2mwsgi
> Martijn
> On May 28, 2010, at 2:25 AM, Graham Dumpleton wrote:
>> 2010/5/28 Raphaël B. <nashii at gmail.com>:
>>> Hi,
>>> Is it possible to have something like psp with mod_wsgi ?
>>> 'cause I have programmed some pages with psp (i don't really like publisher
>>> ..) and I would like to continue using it.
>>> Is it as simple as for mod_python to use sessions ?
>>> It's really difficult to change the way we make things ...
>> PSP is mostly a standalone module in mod_python. There are
>> dependencies on the mod_python request object, forms and sessions. One
>> could though certainly port the PSP templating aspect to work as part
>> of a WSGI mini framework of some sort, but any interaction with the
>> request object, forms and sessions would likely need to change to
>> match what the mini framework provides.
>> Graham
>>> 2010/5/28 Graham Dumpleton <graham.dumpleton at gmail.com>
>>>> On 28 May 2010 09:53, Jason Caldwell <jscnet99 at me.com> wrote:
>>>>> Hi Graham --
>>>>> I would like to see mod_python continue on.  Supporting Py3.
>>>> Well, find like minded people and take on development and support of
>>>> mod_python yourself. That is going to be the only solution.
>>>> Knowing all the problems with how to deal with all the Unicode/bytes
>>>> issues in Python 3.X it is going even be a major task working out what
>>>> the interfaces should look like and where bytes versus Unicode should
>>>> be used. The argument about this for WSGI has been going on for almost
>>>> 2 years now I think and still now final resolution and WSGI is a lot
>>>> smaller interface than mod_python.
>>>> Also, there are a significant number of bugs in mod_python and
>>>> seriously they would need to be addressed before even trying to go to
>>>> Python 3.X. All up it is going to need some serious commitment and
>>>> right now there is no one who who has said they are prepared to do
>>>> that.
>>>>> I find the frameworks annoying and really love the simplicity and
>>>>> lightness of mod_python.
>>>> Did you look at Werkzeug and Flask as I mentioned in the blog. These
>>>> are not heavy weight frameworks. Flask is specifically what is called
>>>> a micro framework. Even if you didn't like Flask, it wouldn't take
>>>> much effort to use Werkzeug to create an alternate micro framework
>>>> that has usage pattern not too dissimilar to mod_python publisher. But
>>>> one has to question whether that is a good idea either given the
>>>> various design issues in publisher around multiple URLs being able to
>>>> be used to map to a single resource and the problems that causes. Do
>>>> you preserve these bad design issues or fix them?
>>>> Graham
>>>>> On May 27, 2010, at 4:33 PM, Graham Dumpleton wrote:
>>>>>> I have warned about this before on the list, but it is getting closer
>>>>>> now.
>>>>>> If you are a user of mod_python, read my blog post about the topic at:
>>>>>>  http://blog.dscpl.com.au/2010/05/modpython-project-soon-to-be-officially.html
>>>>>> Graham
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