[mod_python] The mod_python project soon to be officially dead.

Martijn Moeling martijn at xs4us.nu
Tue Jun 8 09:07:03 EDT 2010

This is the reason I made a MP2WSGI "framework"
Which is in fact a MP code compatible MP adapter for MOD_WSGI

I run it in production but:

I have not yet got the util and PSP modules to work since there are some technical issues I have not found the time to solve.
This could very well be a solution for many MOD_PYTHON users.

(I stil need help on the parse_qs and parse_qsl functions for util to work)

I plan on integrating PSP too, contributors are welcome

see  http://www.bitbucket.org/mmoeling/mp2mwsgi


On May 28, 2010, at 2:25 AM, Graham Dumpleton wrote:

> 2010/5/28 Raphaël B. <nashii at gmail.com>:
>> Hi,
>> Is it possible to have something like psp with mod_wsgi ?
>> 'cause I have programmed some pages with psp (i don't really like publisher
>> ..) and I would like to continue using it.
>> Is it as simple as for mod_python to use sessions ?
>> It's really difficult to change the way we make things ...
> PSP is mostly a standalone module in mod_python. There are
> dependencies on the mod_python request object, forms and sessions. One
> could though certainly port the PSP templating aspect to work as part
> of a WSGI mini framework of some sort, but any interaction with the
> request object, forms and sessions would likely need to change to
> match what the mini framework provides.
> Graham
>> 2010/5/28 Graham Dumpleton <graham.dumpleton at gmail.com>
>>> On 28 May 2010 09:53, Jason Caldwell <jscnet99 at me.com> wrote:
>>>> Hi Graham --
>>>> I would like to see mod_python continue on.  Supporting Py3.
>>> Well, find like minded people and take on development and support of
>>> mod_python yourself. That is going to be the only solution.
>>> Knowing all the problems with how to deal with all the Unicode/bytes
>>> issues in Python 3.X it is going even be a major task working out what
>>> the interfaces should look like and where bytes versus Unicode should
>>> be used. The argument about this for WSGI has been going on for almost
>>> 2 years now I think and still now final resolution and WSGI is a lot
>>> smaller interface than mod_python.
>>> Also, there are a significant number of bugs in mod_python and
>>> seriously they would need to be addressed before even trying to go to
>>> Python 3.X. All up it is going to need some serious commitment and
>>> right now there is no one who who has said they are prepared to do
>>> that.
>>>> I find the frameworks annoying and really love the simplicity and
>>>> lightness of mod_python.
>>> Did you look at Werkzeug and Flask as I mentioned in the blog. These
>>> are not heavy weight frameworks. Flask is specifically what is called
>>> a micro framework. Even if you didn't like Flask, it wouldn't take
>>> much effort to use Werkzeug to create an alternate micro framework
>>> that has usage pattern not too dissimilar to mod_python publisher. But
>>> one has to question whether that is a good idea either given the
>>> various design issues in publisher around multiple URLs being able to
>>> be used to map to a single resource and the problems that causes. Do
>>> you preserve these bad design issues or fix them?
>>> Graham
>>>> On May 27, 2010, at 4:33 PM, Graham Dumpleton wrote:
>>>>> I have warned about this before on the list, but it is getting closer
>>>>> now.
>>>>> If you are a user of mod_python, read my blog post about the topic at:
>>>>>  http://blog.dscpl.com.au/2010/05/modpython-project-soon-to-be-officially.html
>>>>> Graham
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