[mod_python] Persistent variable again...

On the issue of supporting modules (i.e. user sessions), there are simply
too many ways to implement something like that to make it worth coupling it
to mod_python.  You'll either try to be too much for too many people (the
classic framework error) or you'll be so custom to your needs that your
audience is just you (not a bad thing, just not a place for a solution like
mod_python).

I completely agree with Grisha that even the handler is outside of the core
mod_python functionality.  That being said, a listing of available handlers
on the web site would be very useful for those starting/considering using
mod_python.  I do think that having this area up there (even it's a bit
spares initially) will motivate others to share their handlers/frameworks
that are used with mod_python.

What other handlers have people written?  I've got one that implements a
servlet-like call mechanism (thereby avoiding the urls being mapped to
script files).  It's not for everyone, but a perfect example of a decision
that was made for a specific need.

Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: Gregory (Grisha) Trubetskoy [mailto:grisha at modpython.org]
Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2001 11:25 PM
To: Damjan
Cc: mod_python at modpython.org
Subject: Re: [mod_python] Persistent variable again...



In my (humble) opinion, things like this are outside the scope of
mod_python, since the goal of mod_python is apache/python integration -
not building web application frameworks. In other words, mod_python is
something that makes Apache internals available in Python to give the
developer more power and speed, it's not something to make web application
development necessarily easier.

There are a few of application frameworks out there that support
mod_python - webware is one of them. I don't know much about those things,
but I think they have features like state keeping, etc.

(To that extent, even the mod_python.publisher handler is outside the
scope of mod_python, but I am willing to pursue it since it is immediately
usable, it serves as good test for advanced mod_python capabilities and
it's a pretty a good mod_python example program.)

Ultimately, there should be an area on the website that lists mod_python
modules that do various things that aren't part of mod_python
distribution. Right now there aren't enough of them out there to justify
it, but eventually there will be I'm sure.

So if you develop something that serves a particular need, please post it
to the list, and eventually we will have a collection of mod_python
modules/examples/whatever that people can use.

Grisha

On Wed, 18 Apr 2001, Damjan wrote:

> > I'm trying to implement session like mechanism using mod_python. If
> > interpreter is created in each processes, is there a way to make a
> > variable really persistent? I think I should make some daemon that
> > connects thru named pipe to get/pass session information. Is there
> > any other way?
>
> I've been thinking about session managment for mod_python too, and it
seems
> like an important issue. I'd sugest we develop a common interface to
session
> managment, and then write specific modules that handle the job, by ways of
> cookies, databases, special daemons etc...
>
> Any ideas?
>
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