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Alec Matusis
matusis at yahoo.com
Fri Dec 21 01:04:53 EST 2007
> WSGI is the way Python is heading and way more hosting options available for it. Does this mean that mod_python will become unmaintained or obsolete? Is WSGI more scalable than mod_python (when mod_python is used with worker MPM)? > -----Original Message----- > From: mod_python-bounces at modpython.org [mailto:mod_python- > bounces at modpython.org] On Behalf Of Graham Dumpleton > Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 8:47 PM > To: Charles Perreault > Cc: mod_python > Subject: Re: [mod_python] Problem with .psp_ > > On 21/12/2007, Charles Perreault <muganor at videotron.ca> wrote: > > ~$: ls -las /home/user/public_html/ > > 8 drwx--x--x 7 user user 4096 2007-12-20 21:58 . > > 64 drwx--x--x 71 user user 49152 2007-12-20 23:01 .. > > 8 drwx--x--x 5 user user 4096 2007-12-16 22:04 cgi-bin > > 0 drwxr-xr-x 2 user user 1 2007-12-16 11:24 download > > 4 -rw-r--r-- 1 user user 1150 2007-11-06 20:45 favicon.ico > > 4 -rw-r--r-- 1 user user 66 2007-12-16 22:29 test.psp > > 4 -rw-r--r-- 1 user user 401 2007-12-16 00:31 index.html > > 4 -rw-r--r-- 1 user user 106 2007-12-17 16:16 komodo.html > > 4 -rw-r--r-- 1 user user 206 2007-12-16 23:57 komodo.py > > 4 -rw-r--r-- 1 user user 134 2007-12-16 23:23 mptest.py > > 4 drwx--x--x 5 user user 72 2007-12-17 16:24 noel > > 8 drwx--x--x 10 user user 4096 2007-12-16 01:01 photos > > 0 drwx------ 4 user user 16 2007-11-26 21:56 upload > > > > Yes Apache is running as user and group 'www-data'. I know about > file > > permissions and ACL a lot. The complaint in error.log is about > Apache > > Multiviews, which I don't care if it doesn't work. In fact I'm > thinking > > about disabling it. You say Apache needs reading option on > directories, > > which from my experience is only true IF you want it to be able to > > create a directory listing (which is a minor security issue and must > be > > enabled on a per-directory basis). > > True, although looks like MultiViews may depend on getting directory > listing as well and thus the error. > > > Else, indeed files need reading > > permissions and folders only need execute. Does mod_python .psp_ > > debugging rely on Multiview and therefore on folder reading > permissions ??? > > No, doesn't require MultiViews so safe to disable that option. Can't > see how it would make a difference though. > > Can't think of anything else at the moment and don't have access to > mod_python code to look at it. > > BTW, as far as teaching a class, any reason why you didn't go for web > stuff that works to WSGI interface rather than mod_python? WSGI is the > way Python is heading and way more hosting options available for it. > > > Charles > > > > > > > > Graham Dumpleton wrote: > > > What do you get if you run: > > > > > > ls -las /home/user/public_html/ > > > > > > Apache complaining about directory permissions is pretty > significant. > > > Because Apache is running as a special user, it must have > read/search > > > access to that directory plus the parent user directory. > > > > > > It is odd though that you would get this complaint if straight .psp > > > file is working. > > > > > > Graham > > > > > > On 21/12/2007, Charles Perreault <muganor at videotron.ca> wrote: > > > > > >> The Apache access/error log don't say much : > > >> > > >> access.log : > > >> 127.0.0.1 - - [20/Dec/2007:21:59:48 -0500] "GET /~user/test.psp_ > > >> HTTP/1.1" 403 326 "-" "Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; > > >> rv:1.8.1.10) Gecko/20071128 Ubuntu/8.04 (hardy) Firefox/2.0.0.10" > > >> > > >> error.log : > > >> [Thu Dec 20 21:59:48 2007] [error] [client 127.0.0.1] > (13)Permission > > >> denied: cannot read directory for multi: /home/user/public_html/ > > >> > > >> The same lines are repeated for each access to test.psp_. > > >> > > >> Thank you, > > >> > > >> Charles > > >> > > >> > > >> Graham Dumpleton wrote: > > >> > > >>> In the Apache access/error log, what is it saying when trying to > > >>> access the .psp_ file? > > >>> > > >>> There should be an indication as to what Apache has matched the > URL to > > >>> in the file system. With that can tell why configuration may not > be > > >>> working. > > >>> > > >>> Graham > > >>> > > >>> On 21/12/2007, Charles Perreault <muganor at videotron.ca> wrote: > > >>> > > >>> > > >>>> Hello, > > >>>> > > >>>> I'm teaching a class on web applications and I want my students > to use > > >>>> mod_python. They'll have a couple of assignments during the > semester, all > > >>>> to be done in python cgi (first assignment, just to get started) > and psp. > > >>>> I'm now setuping Apache on our Ubuntu 7.10 server (Apache/2.2.4 > (Ubuntu) > > >>>> mod_python/3.3.1 Python/2.5.1 Server). All configuration have > to be done on > > >>>> server / virtual host config, forget the .htaccess (way to much > trouble for > > >>>> students). > > >>>> > > >>>> My students will program their sites in their home folder > (~/public_html). > > >>>> I want them to be able to both use mod_python.psp and > mod_python.publisher, > > >>>> as I'll show them to use the both methods to create web > applications. So > > >>>> far, I've easily been able to make both work in the same > directory using the > > >>>> following configuration (on Debian/Ubuntu httpd.conf is splitted > in multiple > > >>>> files, allowing to enable/disable modules easily) : > > >>>> > > >>>> userdir.conf > > >>>> ---------------------- > > >>>> <IfModule mod_userdir.c> > > >>>> UserDir public_html > > >>>> UserDir disabled root > > >>>> > > >>>> <Directory /home/*/public_html> > > >>>> AllowOverride FileInfo AuthConfig Limit > > >>>> Options MultiViews Indexes SymLinksIfOwnerMatch > > >>>> IncludesNoExec > > >>>> > > >>>> AddHandler mod_python .py .psp .psp_ > > >>>> PythonHandler mod_python.psp | .psp .psp_ > > >>>> PythonHandler mod_python.publisher | .py > > >>>> PythonDebug On > > >>>> </Directory> > > >>>> </IfModule> > > >>>> > > >>>> So you see I'm trying to assign .psp and .psp_ to > mod_python.psp and .py to > > >>>> publisher. So http://localhost/~user/test.py and > > >>>> http://localhost/~user/test.psp both work. However, psp > debugging with the > > >>>> underscore trick (.psp_) don't work. I get a 403 forbidden > error when I try > > >>>> to access http://localhost/~user/test.psp_. > > >>>> > > >>>> Of course, test.psp exists. From what I read, test.psp_ don't > need to > > >>>> exist because the psp handler will understand that a debug > request was done. > > >>>> But it's not working. However, if I create a symbolic link to > test.psp : > > >>>> > > >>>> ln -s test.psp test.psp_ > > >>>> > > >>>> the debug request works. I get to see the generated PSP- > produced python > > >>>> code and psp-html source. > > >>>> > > >>>> I must be missing something. Is there an Apache configuration > that could > > >>>> be enabled by default that would prevent me to access .psp_ > files that don't > > >>>> exist, before the mod_python.psp handler could do its magic ? > > >>>> > > >>>> Anyone please can help ? Thank you, > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >> > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Mod_python mailing list > Mod_python at modpython.org > http://mailman.modpython.org/mailman/listinfo/mod_python
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