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Jacob Carlsson
jagge_90 at hotmail.com
Fri Aug 17 07:00:28 EDT 2007
Hello Again! Okey, now im using "answer all". Fisrt of all i installed python 2.5 as an administartor. This was because i was going to use latest Trac (0.11). I faild installing it and got frustrated, so i thought that i can try again with a new clean stable install. The last stable version of Trac was 0.10.4 and it only required Python 2.4. So i uninstalled python 2.5 (without removing stuff from th registry manually) and installed Python 2.4. Since then i always used Python 2.4. At the point where i solved the problem with mod_python completly i had cleaned the registry of all 2.5 related registry keys and i added the "custom query" (which you can find in this mail below). Note: Everything related to my mail has been installed under an Admin account, also it has been the same account and i have not switched. If theres something else you need to know please let me know! Best Regards Jacob Carlsson >From: "Graham Dumpleton" <graham.dumpleton at gmail.com> >To: "Jacob Carlsson" <jagge_90 at hotmail.com> >CC: mod_python <mod_python at modpython.org> >Subject: Re: [mod_python] Apache wont load/start... >Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2007 08:03:53 +1000 > >So everyone on the mailing list knows, problem solved. See below. > >My question now is at what point did Python 2.5 get installed, >apparently as Administrator? Did you subsequently uninstall it or is >it still on your system somewhere? > >What might have also worked is if you uninstalled Python 2.4, ensuring >user registry entries were cleaned up and then reinstall Python 2.4 as >Administrator. > >Thanks for the feedback, slowly each bit of information we get helps >to clarify how some peoples systems end up in this state. > >BTW, the configuration for this mailing list means that you need to >use reply-all for response to go back to the mailing list. > >Graham > >On 16/08/07, Jacob Carlsson <jagge_90 at hotmail.com> wrote: > > I solved the problem! Now it shows /mpinfo!! > > > > And i'll tell you how and why. > > > > I thought about some of the things you wrote in the previous email and i > > rememberd: did i check if the python registry file ALSO existed in: > > [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Python\PythonCore\2.4] ? > > > > The answer was no, i only checked HKEY_CURRENT_USER. So i checked if the > > registry key existed in HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE and it didnt! So i went to: > > http://www.modpython.org/pipermail/mod_python/2006-September/021979.html > > as you have told many users with my problem and i just changed all "2.5" >to > > "2.4" since im runing python 2.4. I ran the .reg file and restarted my > > apache and localhost/mpinfo worked. It shows no errors and seem to show >the > > correct information. > > > > Now lets see if i can install Trac without any more troubles with > > mod_python.. Hehe. > > > > Thank you for you excellent help and really fast answers! :) > > > > Best Regards Jacob Carlsson > > > > > > >From: "Graham Dumpleton" <graham.dumpleton at gmail.com> > > >To: "Jacob Carlsson" <jagge_90 at hotmail.com> > > >CC: mod_python <mod_python at modpython.org> > > >Subject: Re: [mod_python] Apache wont load/start... > > >Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 21:29:04 +1000 > > > > > >On 16/08/07, Jacob Carlsson <jagge_90 at hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > Hello! > > > > > > > > Okey. Im going to give some more detaild information. > > > > > > > > OS: Windows XP SP2 > > > > PYTHON: 2.4.4 > > > > MOD_PYTHON: mod_python-3.3.1.win32-py2.4-Apache2.0 > > > > APACHE: Apache 2.0.59 (yes, its from a installer i didnt compile it > > >myself) > > > > WHY DO I WANT MOD_PYTHON: To install the project management tool >Trac > > > > > > > > FIRST PROBLEM: > > > > Now i had Apache 2.2, mod_python-3.3.1.win32-py2.4-Apache2.2, python >2.4 > > > > installed. > > > > Everytime i entered "LoadModule python_module modules/mod_python.so" >my > > > > apache wouldnt start. There was no error specified in the apache >monitor > > > > only said "Error", and there was no special error specified in >apcahes > > >Error > > > > log either, not any "couldnt find/load module" or anything. > > > > > >Did you run Apache installer as Administrator? > > > > > >How are you starting Apache? Are you starting it as yourself directly, > > >or as an Apache service? > > > > > > > HOW DID I SOLVE THE FIRST PROBLEM: > > > > I really did not solve it, or maybe? First i couldnt even launch >apache > > > > 2.0.59 when adding "LoadModule ...." but then i thought, why not try > > > > downgrading and make clean install once more and so i did. I >unistalled > > > > apache 2.2 and mod_python installed clean apache 2.0.59 and >mod_python, > > > > restarted my computer and it worked. Now i could load the module >without > > > > apache screaming about a Error. Though i directly ran into next >problem > > >but > > > > at least i got somewhere. > > > > So note that BEFORE i restarted my computer i also added: > > > > > > > > Well i simply added some paths to the PATH variable (Right click >your > > >"My > > > > computer" -> Properties -> Advanced -> Enviorment Variables -> find >PATH > > >i > > > > list -> add directorys where python is installed) > > > > > > > > I never tried these settings with Apache 2.2 since i didnt >understand > > >that > > > > restarting was needed. > > > > Also maybe this didnt solve my problem, maybe it was something else? >And > > > > thats just exaclty the reason why im staying at 2.0.59 now when i >got it > > > > working instead of going back to 2.2 and getting that error again. > > > > > > > > SECOND PROBLEM: > > > > Well, now i got apache 2.0.59, mod_python 3.3.1 read my settings on >top > > >of > > > > the mail for more detaild information about my system as it is now. >Now > > >i > > > > can run apache when LoadModule is uncommented in httpd.conf but i >cant > > >use > > > > python at all. When i add: > > > > > > > > <Location /mpinfo> > > > > SetHandler mod_python > > > > PythonInterpreter main_interpreter > > > > PythonHandler mod_python.testhandler > > > > </Location> > > > > > > > > and then try to access localhost/mpinfo the server gives me a >internal > > >error > > > > (500). > > > > My Apache error log says: > > > > > > > > [Thu Aug 16 12:13:07 2007] [error] make_obcallback: could not import > > > > mod_python.apache.\n > > > > [Thu Aug 16 12:13:07 2007] [error] make_obcallback: Python path >being > > >used > > > > "['H:\\\\install\\\\Python24\\\\python24.zip', '.\\\\DLLs', >'.\\\\lib', > > > > '.\\\\lib\\\\plat-win', '.\\\\lib\\\\lib-tk', > > > > > >Where this is wrong is that the actual directory where the Python > > >stuff is meant to be has been replaced with '.'. That this is wrong > > >means that site.py file probably isn't being found and as a result > > >site-packages not being added automatically and so can't find > > >mod_python. Why the path would have '.' I don't know. > > > > > >If you can set environment variable: > > > > > > PYTHONVERBOSE=1 > > > > > >before you start Apache, you may be able to coax Python to output more > > >verbose information and you might see error about not finding site.py > > >file. > > > > > > > 'H:\\\\install\\\\Apache2\\\\bin']". > > > > [Thu Aug 16 12:13:07 2007] [error] get_interpreter: no interpreter > > >callback > > > > found. > > > > [Thu Aug 16 12:13:07 2007] [error] [client 127.0.0.1] >python_handler: > > >Can't > > > > get/create interpreter. > > > > > > > > And on STARTUP of the apache it also seems to be a little error: > > > > > > > > [Thu Aug 16 11:25:14 2007] [notice] Apache/2.0.59 (Win32) DAV/2 > > >SVN/1.4.4 > > > > configured -- resuming normal operations > > > > [Thu Aug 16 11:25:14 2007] [notice] Server built: Jul 27 2006 >15:55:03 > > > > [Thu Aug 16 11:25:14 2007] [notice] Parent: Created child process >520 > > > > [Thu Aug 16 11:25:14 2007] [error] python_init: Python version >mismatch, > > > > expected '2.4.3', found '2.4.4'. > > > > [Thu Aug 16 11:25:14 2007] [error] python_init: Python executable >found > > > > 'H:\\install\\Apache2\\bin\\Apache.exe'. > > > > [Thu Aug 16 11:25:14 2007] [error] python_init: Python path being >used > > > > > > > >'H:\\install\\Python24\\python24.zip;.\\DLLs;.\\lib;.\\lib\\plat-win;.\\lib\\lib-tk;H:\\install\\Apache2\\bin'. > > > > [Thu Aug 16 11:25:14 2007] [notice] mod_python: Creating 8 session > > >mutexes > > > > based on 0 max processes and 250 max threads. > > > > [Thu Aug 16 11:25:14 2007] [notice] Child 520: Child process is >running > > > > [Thu Aug 16 11:25:14 2007] [notice] Child 520: Acquired the start >mutex. > > > > [Thu Aug 16 11:25:14 2007] [notice] Child 520: Starting 250 worker > > >threads. > > > > > > > > If anyone could help me out with my last error i would be really > > >thankful > > > > since i have tried to do this for several hours now. I feel really > > > > disapointed and tired of just trying and trying, thats why i mail in > > >this > > > > mail list. > > > > > >If you get totally frustrated and want to try something different, > > >have a go at mod_wsgi instead of mod_python. :-) > > > > > > > Some other information that might be useful: (This is how i have it >now, > > > > when apache 2.0.59 is "sort of" working: > > > > > > > > CURRENT "PATH" VARIABLE: > > > > > > > > > > > >........;H:\install\Python24;H:\install\Subversion\bin;H:\install\Python24\DLLs;H:\install\Python24\Lib;H:\install\Python24\Lib\lib-tk;H:\install\Python24\Lib\site-packages;H:\install\Python24\Lib\site-packages\mod_python > > > > > > > > NOTE: Even though i have entered: Lib\site-packages\mod_python etc. >It > > > > doesnet show this in the error log. It only shows DLLs, Lib, lib-tk, >and > > >so > > > > on? Why is that? I have tried restarting but this time it isnt >changing? > > > > Maybe i must reinstall apache when these settigns are set? > > > > > > > > CURRENT REGISTRY SETTINGS: > > > > > > > > This is my "PythonPath" in the registry, i have tried adding > > > > "...site-packages\\mod_python" here as well. > > > > > > > > Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00 > > > > > > > > [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Python\PythonCore\2.4\PythonPath] > > > > > > > >@="H:\\install\\Python24\\Lib;H:\\install\\Python24\\DLLs;H:\\install\\Python24\\Lib\\lib-tk;H:\\install\\Python24\\Lib\\site-packages;H:\\install\\Python24\\Lib\\site-packages\\mod_python" > > > > > >Did you run Python installer as Administrator? Suggestions made by > > >people in past gave: > > > > > >[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Python\PythonCore\2.5\PythonPath] > > >@="<path to python>\\Lib;<path to python>\\DLLs;<path to > > >python>\\Lib\\lib-tk" > > > > > >Check KEY_LOCAL_MACHINE to see if there are entries there and post > > >what they are. If they are missing or wrong and running Apache as > > >service, might be bypassing your user entries and thus end up with > > >wrong directories. > > > > > > > Now, if there are any more details you think i should provide then > > >please > > > > let me know, i will gladly provide the information if im able to! > > > > Im not the best on installing these actually advanced >programs/modules. > > > > Installing Trac has been a nightmare for me. Either that wont work >or > > >that, > > > > trac has really succeeded in making the worlds most difficult >install if > > >you > > > > ask me ;). > > > > > >You might also have a read of thread: > > > > > > > > > >http://groups.google.com/group/modwsgi/browse_thread/thread/16242447b5890e96 > > > > > >This was for mod_wsgi instead of mod_python, but it gives a whole > > >bunch of other registry entries which I don't know are relevant or > > >not. > > > > > >Maybe a Windows person can make more sense of this than me. I don't > > >use Windows for this stort of stuff. > > > > > >Graham > > > > > > > Thank you for reading! > > > > > > > > Best Regards Jacob Carlsson > > > > > > > > >From: "Graham Dumpleton" <graham.dumpleton at gmail.com> > > > > >To: "Colin Bean" <ccbean at gmail.com> > > > > >CC: "Jacob Carlsson" <jagge_90 at hotmail.com>, list > > > > ><mod_python at modpython.org> > > > > >Subject: Re: [mod_python] Apache wont load/start... > > > > >Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 08:19:16 +1000 > > > > > > > > > >On 16/08/07, Colin Bean <ccbean at gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > Try following the links from this message, they seem to address >the > > > > > > same problem: > > > > > > > > > > > > >http://www.modpython.org/pipermail/mod_python/2007-June/023861.html > > > > > > > > > >Actually, possibly don't pay too much attention to that post about > > > > >adding site-packages as it isn't meant to be listed in the registry > > > > >entries to begin with. The site-packages directory is only added >when > > > > >the Python site.py file has been loaded. This was only brought to >my > > > > >attention recently when working out Windows issues with mod_wsgi. > > > > > > > > > >Thus, if mod_python code modules not being found, more likely to be > > > > >that correct site.py file isn't being found at startup. This can >occur > > > > >because of access permissions on files if Apache is run as a >service > > > > >and thus a different user. Thus, very important to install > > > > >Apache/Python/mod_python as administrator so file permissions are > > > > >okay, DLLs are in system directories and so registry entries setup >for > > > > >machine and not just user. > > > > > > > > > >Problems can also arise where you have installed multiple versions >of > > > > >Python and the first one found in PATH is not the same version that > > > > >mod_python requires. This can occur from installing multiple Python > > > > >versions explicitly, or can be done inadvertently as there are now >a > > > > >number of Windows applications which provide their own copy of >Python. > > > > >If the Python version from such an application is found in PATH >first > > > > >it can screw everything up. If this Python version was found first > > > > >when installing mod_python, can also mean that mod_python Python >code > > > > >files were installed in wrong location and not where Python used by > > > > >Apache is looking. There can also be a problem where real Python >was > > > > >installed as administrator and the application version as normal >user, > > > > >as the application version may put entries in user registry entries > > > > >and shadow those for machine. > > > > > > > > > >I stress though what has already been said, it is vitally important >to > > > > >see what is being logged in the Apache error logs so the reason can >be > > > > >determined. > > > > > > > > > >As to not seeing solutions to previous posts, it is generally >because > > > > >people having problems don't explain problems very well and in >enough > > > > >detail. As a consequence we repeat all the commonly suspected >issues, > > > > >such as above. The OP somehow then solves his problem and then >doesn't > > > > >bother responding to say what the problem was and how they fixed >it. > > > > >As a consequence we never learn anything about what the actual >problem > > > > >was and are never able to improve our troubleshooting suggestions. > > > > > > > > > >So, please provide details about log messages and help us by >feeding > > > > >back whatever information seems pertinent and how you may have >solved > > > > >the problem. > > > > > > > > > >Thanks. > > > > > > > > > >Graham > > > > > > > > > > > Past that I'm probably not going to be of much help as I don't >use > > > > > > mod_python on windows... > > > > > > Just to clarify, you are using the installer compiled for apache > > > > > > 2.0.x, correct? I'm guessing so, as I doubt you would have >gotten > > > > > > this far otherwise. > > > > > > > > > > > > Take care, > > > > > > Colin > > > > > > > > > > > > On 8/15/07, Jacob Carlsson <jagge_90 at hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > Hey! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you for your fast answer! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There was no errors in the log. Thats why it was so weird. >While i > > > > >waited > > > > > > > for an answer i downgraded my apache to 2.0.59 again and >entered > > >my > > > > >python > > > > > > > installation path in the PATH variable. And when i restarted >my > > > > >computer it > > > > > > > started up fine despite i had entered "LoadModule >python_module > > >...". > > > > >But > > > > > > > still it dont work and gives me alot of errors. I'll post my >log: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Wed Aug 15 21:00:47 2007] [notice] Apache/2.0.59 (Win32) >DAV/2 > > > > >SVN/1.4.4 > > > > > > > configured -- resuming normal operations > > > > > > > [Wed Aug 15 21:00:47 2007] [notice] Server built: Jul 27 2006 > > >15:55:03 > > > > > > > [Wed Aug 15 21:00:47 2007] [notice] Parent: Created child >process > > >4852 > > > > > > > [Wed Aug 15 21:00:48 2007] [error] python_init: Python version > > > > >mismatch, > > > > > > > expected '2.4.3', found '2.4.4'. > > > > > > > [Wed Aug 15 21:00:48 2007] [error] python_init: Python >executable > > > > >found > > > > > > > 'H:\\install\\Apache2\\bin\\Apache.exe'. > > > > > > > [Wed Aug 15 21:00:48 2007] [error] python_init: Python path >being > > >used > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >'H:\\install\\Python24\\python24.zip;.\\DLLs;.\\lib;.\\lib\\plat-win;.\\lib\\lib-tk;H:\\install\\Apache2\\bin'. > > > > > > > [Wed Aug 15 21:00:48 2007] [notice] mod_python: Creating 8 >session > > > > >mutexes > > > > > > > based on 0 max processes and 250 max threads. > > > > > > > [Wed Aug 15 21:00:48 2007] [notice] Child 4852: Child process >is > > > > >running > > > > > > > [Wed Aug 15 21:00:48 2007] [notice] Child 4852: Acquired the >start > > > > >mutex. > > > > > > > [Wed Aug 15 21:00:48 2007] [notice] Child 4852: Starting 250 > > >worker > > > > >threads. > > > > > > > [Wed Aug 15 21:00:51 2007] [error] make_obcallback: could not > > >import > > > > > > > mod_python.apache.\n > > > > > > > [Wed Aug 15 21:00:51 2007] [error] make_obcallback: Python >path > > >being > > > > >used > > > > > > > "['H:\\\\install\\\\Python24\\\\python24.zip', '.\\\\DLLs', > > > > >'.\\\\lib', > > > > > > > '.\\\\lib\\\\plat-win', '.\\\\lib\\\\lib-tk', > > > > > > > 'H:\\\\install\\\\Apache2\\\\bin']". > > > > > > > [Wed Aug 15 21:00:51 2007] [error] get_interpreter: no >interpreter > > > > >callback > > > > > > > found. > > > > > > > [Wed Aug 15 21:00:51 2007] [error] [client 127.0.0.1] > > >python_handler: > > > > >Can't > > > > > > > get/create interpreter. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > These last errors comes when i try accessing the following: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <Location /mpinfo> > > > > > > > SetHandler mod_python > > > > > > > PythonInterpreter main_interpreter > > > > > > > PythonHandler mod_python.testhandler > > > > > > > </Location> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Like what does it mean with "Python version mismatch, expected > > > > >'2.4.3', > > > > > > > found '2.4.4'.", expected 2.4.3? How could it expect something > > >else? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also i tried entering some more paths into the PATH variable >like > > > > > > > "Lib,lib-tk,DLLs" but it doesent seem enough... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best Regards Jacob Carlsson > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >From: "Colin Bean" <ccbean at gmail.com> > > > > > > > >To: "Jacob Carlsson" <jagge_90 at hotmail.com> > > > > > > > >CC: mod_python at modpython.org > > > > > > > >Subject: Re: [mod_python] Apache wont load/start... > > > > > > > >Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 11:08:19 -0700 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Please post the contents from your Apache error log when you >try > > >to > > > > > > > >start the server, can't really tell what the problem is from >the > > > > > > > >information you've given. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >On 8/15/07, Jacob Carlsson <jagge_90 at hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hello! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Im using Windows XP. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have tried to get apache (both 2.2.4 and 2.0.59 to work >with > > > > > > > >mod_python). > > > > > > > > > I have python 2.4 and I have tried using > > > > > > > > > "mod_python-3.2.10.win32-py2.4-apache2.2" & > > > > > > > > > "mod_python-3.3.1.win32-py2.4-Apache2.2" and also some >other > > > > >different > > > > > > > > > versions when I tested with apache 2.0.59. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My problem is that apache simply wont load when i enter > > > > >"LoadModule > > > > > > > > > python_module modules/mod_python.so" in httpd.conf. > > > > > > > > > Now I have tried fixing this in many various ways for >hours > > >and > > > > >not > > > > > > > >succeded > > > > > > > > > at all. > > > > > > > > > For example I have searched google and your page for >answers > > >and i > > > > >found > > > > > > > >out > > > > > > > > > that some people had the same problem as I but some of >their > > > > >solutions > > > > > > > >didnt > > > > > > > > > work out for me. > > > > > > > > > For example I tried adding python to my "PATH" variable >but > > >that > > > > >didnt > > > > > > > >help > > > > > > > > > much.. Maybe i did it incorrect? I added "C:\Python24" >(thats > > > > >simply > > > > > > > >where I > > > > > > > > > installed python) > > > > > > > > > Also many that have the same problem didnt get an answer >that > > >i > > > > >could > > > > > > > >read. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So i would appreciate any help so i finally can solve this > > >really > > > > > > > >annoying > > > > > > > > > problem! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best Regards Jacob Carlsson > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________ > > > > > > > > > Luspank? 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