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Steve Holden
steve at holdenweb.com
Fri Sep 15 08:56:24 EDT 2006
Jim Gallacher wrote: > Steve Holden wrote: > >> Graham Dumpleton wrote: >> >>> Steve Holden wrote .. >>> >>>> Graham Dumpleton wrote: >>>> >>>>> In respect of AddHandler, SetHandler, MultiViews etc, you need to >>>>> realise >>>>> that mod_python is an extension for Apache. Thus, such things like >>>>> this >>>>> aren't actually implemented by mod_python but are implemented >>>>> by Apache. To use mod_python properly, you also need to understand >>>>> Apache to some degree and that means also referring to the Apache >>>>> documentation. >>>>> >>>> >>>> Which, IMHO, is even more obscurantist than the mod_python >>>> documentation. It seems to assume you've already read much of the >>>> source >>>> code and are familiar with C ... in which case why would you be >>>> using mod_python in the first place :-) ? >>> >>> >>> >>> As Jim effectively commented, mod_python is more than just a jumping off >>> point for a content handler. It is quite sad (and frustrating) at >>> times to see >>> that more often than not people ignore all the richness that Apache >>> offers. >>> They just want to use Python for absolutely everything when there are >>> other >>> modules or features provided by Apache that could be used in conjunction >>> with mod_python and their own Python code to get the job done quicker >>> and >>> more efficiently. More than anything else, this is why mod_python >>> development >>> has languished, because the majority of people cant seem to see the >>> bigger >>> picture. It is only with mod_python 3.3 that one will be able to >>> finally do >>> with mod_python what mod_perl people have had for years and even then >>> we still don't go anywhere near as far as they do in being able to >>> harness >>> the full power of Apache. >>> >> That's great. However, those of us who aren't particularly clued in to >> Apache find it difficult to locate appropriate documentation: and I >> *have* tried - there just doesn't seem to be that much introductory >> documentation. Or I am crap at searching, perhaps. > > > You are correct. (About the available documentation... I'm sure your > search abilities are just fine ;) ). Everyone here acknowledges that the > mod_python documentation could be improved, especially on how it fits > into the Apache ecosystem. > > One of the better resources is the book "Writing Apache Modules with > Perl and C". See http://www.modperl.com. There is some really good > information in there that can aid in understanding how Apache works. > Unfortunately the examples are in perl, so it helps to already know > mod_python so you can translate on the fly - not an ideal situation. > Thanks for the pointer, Jom. Looks like that would be worth the money to buy. Maybe there should be a book on Python web programming that includes a proper treatment of mod_python. regards Steve -- Steve Holden +44 150 684 7255 +1 800 494 3119 Holden Web LLC/Ltd http://www.holdenweb.com Skype: holdenweb http://holdenweb.blogspot.com Recent Ramblings http://del.icio.us/steve.holden
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