Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T
jeffh at dundeemt.com
Fri Dec 22 19:15:48 EST 2006
> > I've come to accept that the sweet spot for mod_python is somewhat > > higher up the food chain from cheap shared hosting. Mod_python will come > > into it's own as server virtualization becomes the rule for website > hosting. > > > > > I'm finding this to be true. Unable to afford a dedicated server or find > any support among the cheapest shared servers I've pretty much settled on > trying a virtual dedicated server. This isn't meant to be an advertisement > but $30/month U.S. at GoDaddy is probably cheap enough for much of the > mainstream developers to handle especially since it supposedly comes with > full control to host multiple website, etc. The only problem is that > setting it up may be a challenge but a screencast could help with that as > well. That is part of the issue that needs to be addressed. Python is an excellent tool for web development. However, there is a chicken and egg problem. Developers won't use it if it's not an option on their shared host, and those hosts won't implement it until there are enough people asking for it. Even with virtual hosts -- someone has to admin it, and most will use it as their own shared host for their clients. And they will have the same needs, they might not even be real developers -- right now, writing an app like wordpress in python is not competitive with with wordpress and php. (not it terms of development but distribution) php is everywhere - non-developers are using it via a control panel to install php applications like wordpress. I want python webapps(TG, Django, Pylons, et al) to be used/installed by the masses, currently they are only available to people who know how to develop python apps and are also sysadmin qualified. Maybe Graham's idea is the way to go. mod_wsgi -- I do know that if I had to bet on who could/would do it, I'd put my money on the mod_python developers. I can't think of anyone else who has more experience or knowledge on the internals and architecture of that layer. If the chicken and egg conundrum is to be resolved in a timely fashion and joe and susie blogger are going to be able to install my hypothetical pythonpress blog app on their BigName shared hosting company site we need developers like Graham, Jim and the rest of the mp devs to help get us there.
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