[mod_python] Re: Beta Google groups vs. mailing list

Graham Dumpleton grahamd at dscpl.com.au
Mon Dec 6 16:21:57 EST 2004

On Dec 06 12:00, "Gregory (Grisha) Trubetskoy" <grisha at modpython.org> wrote:
> Subject: Re: [mod_python] Re: Beta Google groups vs. mailing list
> On Mon, 6 Dec 2004, Chad Whitacre wrote:
> > AFAICT, yes. It is taken care of by by Lars and by Google. That is, Lars has 
> > created a mod_python Google Group, and Google allows you to post to their 
> > groups via email. For more info see:
> >
> >  http://groups-beta.google.com/group/mod_python
> OK, I see now... I don't know if I like this - I'm not very excited about 
> Google, Inc. having all control (mod_python predates google and how knows 
> - may outlive it).
> > You said:
> >
> >>>> I think the best thing is <snip> to figure out how
> >>>> to also send stuff to google - this what the Python list does.
> I think what they do is send stuff via NNTP, which makes it available via 
> google groups. I'm not a usenet expert, but if someone could figure out 
> how to register a group and go ahead and create it, I can look into 
> configuring mailman to gateway the postings to it. This IMO would be the 
> best set up.
> Grisha

Unless there is a way to gateway postings made via GG back onto the mailing list,
I would recommend against doing it. The reason being that although GG would
see all mailing list traffic, if someone does a followup to a message using GG, those
on the mailing list wouldn't see the followup.

This was a big problem with the XML-RPC discussion group whose original home
is at www.xmlrpc.com. At one point posts there started to be forwarded through to
a Yahoo group, but anything posted via Yahoo groups never got seen back on the
www.xmlrpc.com site. It mean't you effectively had to use the Yahoo group if
you wanted to see all traffic.

I don't know if this problem was ever solved for the XML-RPC discussion group and
whether GG has a way to facilitate bidirectional gateways. I know that for the main
Python mailing list and USENET newsgroup things are bidirectional, but I don't think
that is facilitated using GG interface, but at USENET level.

Graham Dumpleton (grahamd at dscpl.com.au)

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