Michael Neel
neel at mediapulse.com
Sat Oct 26 14:42:44 EST 2002
Jack, I think that's it's all of the above. First would be a lack of popularity. Going to apache's website it hard to find any info on python under apace at all (hopefully this will change soon). Next, you do need a python skilled tech guy to admin and understand the mod_python issues, and I'm guessing he's hard to find right now compared to perl or php. I'm also not sure of those ISP's that offer mod_perl, how many of them go beyond just using it for "fast CGI". Allowing someone access to embed an apache module in any language is a risky option. Also, to setup such a module you would need conf file access, and I'm sure most ISP's don't like that idea either. Now the conf file issues may have resolution, but I'm not sure how feasible it is to do, so I throw this out for feedback. What it the module "registered" itself for the hooks it wanted to use? This way there would be no need to change a conf file once setup. Having the feature in the conf file to restrict which hooks a module could register for as well might be nice. Lastly, having a way to call the module in a url dynamically would help, so that no setup was needed in a conf file to say where the module was, i.e. /python-bin/myhandler.py would use myhandler.py as the module which registered hooks on it own, but /python-bin/other.py would be a completely different handler all on it own and neither one mentioned in the conf file; just some type of "<Directory>" config to say that /python-bin was a handler directory and that those handlers could register for any of the following hooks. I don't know of anything that works like the above, so this would be very new to the apache world. I'd like to think it would help in getting more ISP's to support mod_python, but that's just a guess. Either way, I'd like to know what others think. Mike -- Michael C. Neel Director of Software Development Mediapulse, Inc. Mod_python hosting available -----Original Message----- From: Jack Diederich [mailto:jack_diederich at email.com] Sent: Friday, October 25, 2002 8:43 PM To: Michael C. Neel Subject: RE: [mod_python] Web Hosts that support mod_python? Hi Michael, Are there any technical reasons why mod_python isn't supported by most hosting companies, is it just not popular enough to justify support, or is it just a policy thing? If it is anything but a policy thing, please throw a post on mod_python. Technical tweaks could be made, or maybe someone would write a webhosting mod_python HOWTO to make life easier for hosting providers. If the answer is lack of popularity, we'll just have to wait a while. I know quite a few folks up here in Boston that are moving to python or ruby for rapid web application development from perl or C++. CPU cycles are so cheap there isn't much reason not to anymore ;) -jack > I've seen this question asked here a few times, and wondered why we > (my > company) doesn't do this. So I talked it over, and I'll be able to add > mod_python support when requested to an account. I don't think it will > be advertised on our site, but email me and I can get it setup. We > already have MySQL available, and I could install albatross as well > since I use it often. -- __________________________________________________________ Sign-up for your own FREE Personalized E-mail at Mail.com http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup
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